tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7897286065374355890.post3434582475007203578..comments2024-03-19T04:21:59.320-07:00Comments on Mike Rose's Blog: “Reform,” “Accountability,” and the Absence of Schoolhouse Knowledge in Education PolicyMike Rosehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14013622839240394965noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7897286065374355890.post-38734895179847711412009-02-07T00:11:00.000-08:002009-02-07T00:11:00.000-08:00Wow Mike this is very powerful.Words, especially y...Wow Mike this is very powerful.<BR/>Words, especially yours, are strong!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7897286065374355890.post-43950737642835674392009-01-29T14:34:00.000-08:002009-01-29T14:34:00.000-08:00I spent my whole working life in Boston public hig...I spent my whole working life in Boston public high school classrooms and I have to say that all this is a little 'academic.' The main problem I was always plagued with was that a teacher can never tell the truth. It is NOT possible to have poor kids read 100 books a year and do all the test prep and all the metacognitive stuff and so on. Whatever we are told to do, we tend to do some of and Judithbakrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05301587263031138855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7897286065374355890.post-48267959753146723622009-01-21T12:25:00.000-08:002009-01-21T12:25:00.000-08:00I think the point you make here about "accountabil...I think the point you make here about "accountability" and the way that terms like this are used -- and frame -- the debate about education is *so* important. It's useful, too, to think about the roots of accountability - linked to proving that a good job is being done (especially when it's not), linked to stories about failure and corruption. I think it might be more useful to think about some Linda Adler-Kassnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12185503135802020828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7897286065374355890.post-52165383100949770442009-01-21T10:01:00.000-08:002009-01-21T10:01:00.000-08:00I very much agree with P. Hsu's point about reduct...I very much agree with P. Hsu's point about reduction of complexity being a part of our mental armor, it is a way of controlling information and establishing a place for ourselves in the world (one component being picking out an enemy or enemies, unfortunately). It's going to happen, at least for most of us, so one has to catch oneself and choose not believe the binary model except as a tool. TheArtSparkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04875996639432864367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7897286065374355890.post-70104163624205046132009-01-17T16:20:00.000-08:002009-01-17T16:20:00.000-08:00I believe that the future of education is reliant ...I believe that the future of education is reliant on <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_educational_resources" REL="nofollow">Open Educational Resources</A>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7897286065374355890.post-83113018571235371592009-01-15T11:18:00.000-08:002009-01-15T11:18:00.000-08:00My bad.My bad.P. Hsuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12717836293068903511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7897286065374355890.post-9224145843917745912009-01-15T11:05:00.000-08:002009-01-15T11:05:00.000-08:00In response to the post by P. Hsu, in which this c...In response to the post by P. Hsu, in which this comment was made: <BR/>"As for Darling-Hammond's non-appointment, she had too much going against her: not from Chicago, not politically connected, not black." I would simply like to question the basis for the statement that she is "not black." In making this comment, I do not submit that either blackness or non-blackness should be a Debrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11213717426545423862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7897286065374355890.post-65381436663661262792009-01-15T09:49:00.000-08:002009-01-15T09:49:00.000-08:00I worry that we will all be disappointed in Obama'...I worry that we will all be disappointed in Obama's education team. It is shaping up to be a policy wonk's dream, with no one like Linda D-H included. <BR/><BR/>Anon E. MussAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7897286065374355890.post-59474711187073404792009-01-14T12:23:00.000-08:002009-01-14T12:23:00.000-08:00I especially appreciated your statement that "...I especially appreciated your statement that "education should address social and ethical development and preparation for citizenship and for the world of work" and, further on, that policy decisions needed to include more of a grassroots component. I am hopeful that the current 'discussion' will indeed become a discussion, or barring that, perhaps the enthusiasm of more "Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7897286065374355890.post-74015882976463076752009-01-11T23:58:00.000-08:002009-01-11T23:58:00.000-08:00Unfortunately, reduction of complexity is a human ...Unfortunately, reduction of complexity is a human condition. It's the easiest way for us to organize our world. Left/Right, Liberal/Conservative, Reformist/Traditionalist--reducing people to these dichotomous labels means we don't need to spend a lot of time and energy understanding them or the situation. Mass media is guilty of doing this, as well as people who are trying to push their own P. Hsuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12717836293068903511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7897286065374355890.post-15826372978969905342009-01-09T09:23:00.000-08:002009-01-09T09:23:00.000-08:00Mike,Thank you for summarizing clearly and eloquen...Mike,<BR/>Thank you for summarizing clearly and eloquently what so many of us feel about these matters. I am as anxious as anyone to see the back of Margaret Spelling (Wait, that didn't come out right!) yet, I am not comfortable with hints that are emerging about the education policy of the Obama/Duncan team. If we are really going to move toward actual improvement (How about using THAT word Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7897286065374355890.post-29247191003786479222009-01-08T21:33:00.000-08:002009-01-08T21:33:00.000-08:00One of the points you made early on in this post, ...One of the points you made early on in this post, about the misuse of the term "reform" touched on something that astonishes me every time I see an example of it - as we become less literate as a population, words acquire more and more magic, they're almost totems . Repetition makes it so. Also, simplicity and clarity are certainly more satisfying than the emotional complexity of on-the-ground ArtSparkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04875996639432864367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7897286065374355890.post-67331556098395185842009-01-07T11:06:00.000-08:002009-01-07T11:06:00.000-08:00Mike: I think you are right - where is school kno...Mike: <BR/><BR/>I think you are right - where is school knowledge in all this? I believe the answer is that education has become a multi-trillion dollar industry with great rewards and power at the top. We university people are as culpable as the rest - we're in it up to our armpits questing for prestige and power. I recall years ago being at the old Center for the Study of Higher Buzzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18132139021402570230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7897286065374355890.post-88828101262145561952009-01-06T18:16:00.000-08:002009-01-06T18:16:00.000-08:00Dear Mike,You are so on the mark in so many ways--...Dear Mike,<BR/><BR/>You are so on the mark in so many ways--as usual! Reformers? Joel Klein? Who distains people in the classroom or anyone who has a bit of experience working directly with kids? All his hires come from McKinsey, etc. "We know best"...when in fact none of those people have ever been in a classroom. <BR/><BR/>Your point about the misuse of language was on target as well...as well Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7897286065374355890.post-27892775835916148792009-01-06T16:44:00.000-08:002009-01-06T16:44:00.000-08:00Reading this account of current discourse around e...Reading this account of current discourse around educational "reform" in the U.S. underlines the value, for me, of receiving this blog, where I learn about American issues our papers in Australia don't cover -- well, why would they -- The issues are, however, very similar to the education wars we conduct, along parallel lines, over here -- what is to be done about unsatisfactory achievement in Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com